In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast, we take a look at what activators are in the Thermo Diet, what health actually is, some of our favorite activators, and some tips to incorporate some of them into your everyday.
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Chris: Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Thermo Diet Podcast. My name's Christopher Walker.
Jayton: I'm Jayton, otherwise known as The Research Cowboy.
Chris: Or R.C. Jay Rock.
Jayton: I go by many names.
Chris: Yeah. So, anyway, we're going to talking about activators today, thermo activators. If you listened to the first episode, we talked about the difference between activators and blockers and why they're important. Activators being important because they're going to bring you back toward a more perfect state of health, otherwise knew as thermo. You want to introduce activators back into your life because a lot of them, people just stop doing them over the years. They're just smart things to bring you back and get you on the right track. They can be things outside of just diet. While they do include dietary things like overcoming micronutrient deficiencies. Certain foods can be considered activators, for sure. But there are also other things that you can do in your life, certain activities, and habits, and that sort of stuff that are activators, even mindset stuff, ways of thinking. So that's what we're going to talk about today, and let's just jump into it. Jay Rock, what's your favorite activator?
Jayton: My favorite activator is dependent on the season. I like to think of it in different ways. You have your physical activators, and then you have your mental activators. Right?
Chris: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jayton: Your emotional and psychological activators. Ski season's coming around. That's going to be a good activator here pretty quick.
Chris: Okay, yeah. I hear if you snowboard, you get twice the activation of if you're skiing.
Jayton: Oh really?
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: I haven't heard that.
Chris: Yeah. Because there's like a cool factor to it.
Jayton: Hmm.
Chris: You're cooler.
Jayton: I think points completely anecdotal evidence, so I'm going to...
Chris: I'm going study that claim, that, yeah.
Jayton: Yeah, and then I really enjoy just times of reflection and meditations, sitting back and thinking about things and, especially, positive things. You know?
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: And working things out. I like that.
Chris: Not ruminating on negative things,-
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: ... but actively building positive thoughts.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Focusing on progression.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: A better future.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: A better now.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Cool.
Jayton: What's your favorite activator?
Chris: Beef.
Jayton: Yeah?
Chris: Good beef, number one. Other food-wise, I got to say fresh-squeezed OJ. So good.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: It's like crack. But I've never had crack, so I don't know what that's like.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: But another one that I like to do, seasonally, is hiking. Living here in Boulder, hiking's pretty unmatched. I'm pretty sure this one of the best places in the country, at least, to do it, maybe even the world. There are a lot of hiking trails and it's always sunny here. It's sunnier in Boulder than it is in Southern California. There are more sunny days per year. Getting out in the sun, just shirtless hiking, gets some good natural vitamin D production. I like to be out in the sun. I don't wear sunscreen. We can talk about sunscreen in another episode, but I did a video on the YouTube channel about it. There's tons of stuff in sunscreen, chemicals, that actually have been shown in real research to cause cancer.
Jayton: By yours truly, by the way.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: By the Research Cowboy. So I like to get out the sun without sunscreen, go hiking. Walking is another good one. Hiking's just more of situational walking in the mountains or wherever. But walking is great. Try to get 10,000 steps a day. You feel really good and you sleep really well if you get 20,000, but anywhere between 10 and 20 is a great target. It also helps you think, helps you reflect on things and come up with good ideas, and get out of a situation that you're normally in, and go and take some rest. It's almost like a active meditation. That's a good one. What else? Snowboarding, for sure. While you're skiing, I'll be snowboarding.
Jayton: Yeah. Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: Get up at high altitude. There's research showing altitude, itself, is just better for you thyroid gland, and in general, and longevity. So we're lucky that we live at altitude in Colorado. Then, getting up in the mountains during the winter is really fun because you get up... You can be up at 11 to 13,000 feet for snow sports. That's great exercise. Being up there for a weekend is also extremely healthy. Get out in the fresh air. You don't have this contaminated air. I've lived in multiple big cities throughout my life like New York and Los Angeles. The air in those places is just not very good. When you get up in the Colorado mountains or anywhere out in the snow and just fresh air, it's really good for you. It's a good activator.
Jayton: Nice pine scent, too, up here.
Chris: The Boulder pine.
Jayton: Oh yeah. It's really good. If we can go back to the foundational element, what makes something an activator? What allows it to push us more towards thermo?
Chris: It's essentially doing things. It's introducing things into your life that are going to improve your hormonal balance, help you overcome some sort of deficiency, helping you achieve the key things that are going define true health, what health really is. And that's something we could talk about. I mean, it's just... It was kind of wild when I realized it, but nobody actually tries to define health. They just use the word healthy. Like that's healthy. That's healthy. Well, what is health?
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: What's healthy, in general? You can't say a bean is healthy if you don't define what health really is. Nothing matters unless it's got a reference point. It's got to be within the context of something else, relative to something else. With Thermo, the way that we way that we define health is that you basically don't have micronutrient deficiencies and you are hormonally balanced. That is, what I think, is the real definition of health. Therefore, anything that goes against that is not healthy.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: So that would be a blockers. That's kind of how we're just classifying things. It's easy to think about. Then an activator is something that's going to support that health goal of being micronutrient rich in your body, not deficient, and hormonally balanced. These are things that you can do that are going to actively bring you toward that state of health. Blockers are things that are going to take you away from it. We'll do another episode on blockers.
Jayton: So that's basically anything that builds up your resiliency to something throwing you out of that balance and then helping to bring you back.
Chris: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jayton: It could be stress related. It could be micronutrient related. There's a lot of ways to overcome these things. I mean, vitamin D deficiency is super-common. You can use a vitamin D supplement or you can get out in the sun and produce your own vitamin D, either of which are fine options. But it's just a framework for thinking.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: And making good decisions.
Chris: So what are some of the easiest activators to get in somebody's life, right off the bat?
Jayton: Walking. The easiest things would probably be just things that people can't hide from. You can't make an excuse about it. Because a lot of people like to play the victim. Right? Say, "Oh, that sounds great, but I can't do that." Sure you can. Walking, I mean, everyone can walk. Right?
Chris: Right?
Jayton: Unless you're somehow not physically able to walk. That's an easy one. Even if you can't get outside during certain times of the year, you can walk on a treadmill. It's not ideal but it's still walking.
Chris: Mm-hmm (affirmative). I think a lot of people don't realize walking's good for your health. Well, there's so many for things that simply just walking can affect. There's a bunch of different sensors and receptors in the body that are correlated between walking and digestion. People that walk for long amounts of time throughout the day, their digestion is usually really good. Then it helps move around the lymph system, so you're getting all that good lymph pumping around because it doesn't have a "pump" like the circulatory system of the heart does. You know, with the blood?
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Well, it's good for your circulatory system, too.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah, it's good for just strengthening muscles. It's a good way, especially if you're trying to lose weight, trying to lose body fat, to have a habit pattern daily that's going to support that, just use some extra energy in a way that's not going to throw off your hormones. It's more of a rejuvenative process. It's going to help lower stress, not increase it.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: Endurance sports, in general, increase stress. They're going to increase the chronically elevate cortisol levels, which ends up throwing off your hormonal balance, things like steady-state running that a lot of people do. Heavy cycling and pool swimming, whatever these long-distance type things, are going to throw off your cortisol, and chronically elevate it, and therefore suppress protective hormones. So you don't want to do that, but walking actually lowers cortisol and helps you, because most people don't have the issue of too low of cortisol... Everyone's somewhat stressed out in some way. Right? You got to build these activator patterns in your life that help you regulate the stress. I think walking's a really good one.
Jayton: Yeah. Especially out in nature. Whenever we look at hormones, we have our protective hormones and our stress hormones. Cortisol's one of those key stress hormones. Right? There's lots of studies that show just walking out in nature dramatically lowers cortisol and raises a lot of the protective hormones, too.
Chris: Yeah, there was a study that compared treadmill walking versus nature walking. The nature group... They walked the same distance, both groups did, and the nature group, I think had like a 40% lower cortisol level or something like that.
Jayton: Really?
Chris: Yeah. It was wild. It was somewhere between 20 and 40%, but a very significant drop in cortisol.
Jayton: Wow.
Chris: Same distance walked, just different setting.
Jayton: Yeah. One thing that I really enjoy doing is walking around in a new neighborhood or a new environment because that's really good for brain plasticity, too.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: If you're in a new environment, your brain works in a different way. If you're ever stuck with trying to come up with a new idea or something, try going somewhere unknown and walking around in that area. It's almost like a breakthrough strategy.
Chris: Yeah, that's a good idea. Well, you notice, too, when you're in a new area, time slows down. It seems like it takes forever to find someplace that you've never been before, or whatever, if you're looking for it. But then once you've been there, your brain just naturally is going to shut down a lot of that, and it becomes a habitual thing. It kind of filters everything. That's what you've noticed the first time you drove, maybe to a new house, right, or from a new house to your office. It probably was... It was so foreign it seemed like it would take a little longer. But after you do it over, and over, and over for a year, it's just... You zone out. You don't even think about anything not related to that environment. But it's easier for you to stay in the same sort of thought pattern within that physical space, so it totally makes sense because when you're broken from that, your brain is completely stimulated in a different way. I like to do that if I'm feeling really burned out, just go travel to a different city, spend some time just walking around, go to different places, and see different things, and meet people, and whatever. Usually I come up with really good ideas, and I come back feeling really relaxed and rejuvenated.
Jayton: Definitely. Yeah, I experienced that recently.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Jayton was in Italy.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Learning some Italian.
Jayton: Yeah. So that was pretty nice. I got to get my walking in along the cliffs of the Italian coast. That was pretty cool.
Chris: So you did some cliff diving in Cinque Terre?
Jayton: Yeah. I went cliff jumping in Cinque Terre, which is like five cities connected along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea in Italy. Beautiful place. I'll definitely be back sometime.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: Yeah, but...
Chris: Did you meet any Italian girls?
Jayton: No, I didn't. I actually met a group of University of Arizona students that were studying abroad.
Chris: Nice.
Jayton: And so, I got to hang out with them for a little while and jump off some cliffs.
Chris: Cool.
Jayton: It was cool. Yeah.
Chris: Did you learn Italian?
Jayton: I learned a few things, but I got the Google Translator app.
Chris: Oh, yeah.
Jayton: I would just type something up there and have them read it. They'd be like, "I have no idea what you're talking about." Yeah.
Chris: Do you know how to order a coffee?
Jayton: No.
Chris: No.
Jayton: Because I could just say, I just would say espresso and they'd be like toss it at me.
Chris: Oh, yeah. All right.
Jayton: Yeah. But so walking's one. What about light?
Chris: Light. Yes. Light's interesting. Blue light, there's a lot of research showing that excess blue light on the retina is going to elevate stress hormones, cause eye issues in general, vision issues, and so forth. Actually, if you're watching the video of this, Jayton's wearing blue-blocking glasses right now.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Blocking it. But red light, on the other hand, is actually a wavelength that can be very healing on the body, which is really cool.
Jayton: Hmm.
Chris: Yep.
Jayton: So what's the difference between being under regular lights inside and going outside and getting sunlight exposure?
Chris: Well, you're not going to have any sort of natural vitamin D production from fluorescent light, but you will from the sun, which is definitely interesting. It's, obviously, better to be outside. Yeah.
Jayton: Right. Isn't it sunlight's really regenerative for different tissues in the body like the thyroid and the testes specifically. Right?
Chris: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah, there's research showing that if you expose those glands, specifically, to sunlight for... The studies typically are somewhere between 30 and 60 minutes. That gland, itself, starts to operate way better, acutely, right away. I forgot the exact number. I read the study a million years ago, but it was on the direct sunlight on the testes, I think it was 30 minutes, had just a huge boost in natural testosterone production.
Jayton: It was like 200%, wasn't it?
Chris: Yeah, something stupid like that.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: It was crazy.
Chris: Good luck finding a place where you can lay out naked in the sun.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: But if you can, you should do it.
Jayton: You can get gravity boots and then just hang upside down in your back yard. I'm not sure how your neighbors would like that, but that would be really effective if you're trying to increase your testosterone levels.
Chris: Yeah, you get the underside exposure.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Have you tried this? Don't you have roommates?
Jayton: No. That may be a future project I have whenever I get my own place is having somewhere I can hang upside down in my back yard.
Chris: Yeah, south-facing so the sun is always there.
Jayton: Rises in the east, sets in the west. I'm going to remember that.
Chris: That's why they always put solar panels on the roof south-facing.
Jayton: Oh, really.
Chris: Usually they try to because the sun's [inaudible 00:16:24] going to-
Jayton: Oh, okay.
Chris: ... expose to... Unless you're getting blocked by a apartment complex or something.
Jayton: I think I'll be facing west because I'm not going to be out there all day and I don't want to get more exposure to my left than to my right.
Chris: Yeah, you don't want to get burned.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. Not there.
Jayton: But, no, so red light... You can get these different devices that you can just hang up in a bedroom or something, and use them, and get full-body exposure pretty easily, right?
Chris: Yeah. Yep. Yeah, it's pretty simple. You'll find that, too, when you put, especially on your thyroid, if you expose it to red light for 15, 20 minutes, it starts buzzing. It's kind of a sign that it's activated.
Jayton: Right.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: It increases the function of those cells. Right?
Chris: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jayton: So they're producing more energy.
Chris: Again, it's all back to improving the order in the body, as opposed to disorder.
Jayton: Right.
Chris: Right. The red light wavelength, for whatever reason, restores order to the structure. It's interesting. Super interesting.
Jayton: One thing that I noticed, too, is the effect that it has on the mood. Whenever it's cloudy and gloomy outside, you feel kind of depressed and-
Chris: Kind of low.
Jayton: Yeah. Then, whenever it's nice and sunny, you feel pretty great.
Chris: That is one of the reasons I like going to Mexico.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Colorado.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Feels so good, spending all day out in the sun. You know?
Jayton: Yeah. Heck yeah.
Chris: Get some good food.
Jayton: What's another easy activator that somebody can start with? We've got walking, light.
Chris: Let's see. Well, I think you were talking about cliff jumping. I think the ocean is a good one, if you have access to it or just fresh water-
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: ... of some kind. If you're in Boulder, we have the creek right there. Just go jump in the creek. Get a little cold exposure and natural spring water. Or if you can find some ocean water that's not polluted and go jump in there, too. Get all the minerals. Because a lot of these natural water sources are just rich in minerals, and they're easy to absorb through your skin.
Jayton: Yeah. I like to take magnesium salt baths with some baking soda.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: Or you can do a foot bath or something like that.
Chris: That's what I would do. Yeah, I used to do foot baths. One interesting thing I used to do. I haven't done it in a while. I learned it, actually, from the guys in Dollar Beard Club. I don't know if you remember that company?
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Really cool dudes, Chris and Alex. They introduced me to this liver detox idea where you would... I would do this when I lived in LA. I would do it every weekend. I would sit with a Epsom salt foot bath, and get a hot, one of those water bladders, fill it with really hot water. Then soak this gauze in, kind of medical gauze, in castor oil. Put the gauze over the liver area on the body. Then put the hot water on top of it. You sit there for 30 minutes. It's interesting because if you drank alcohol the day before, you start to get a buzz again. What happens is it end up... The heat pulls the alcohol or whatever toxins up out of the liver organ. It's wild. It just pulls it back out into the blood stream so you can flush it out. It was really cool, and I would feel extremely good after. You'd get the buzz, and it would go away. Then you would just pee out everything. It would be dark yellow or whatever. It was kind of insane how well it worked.
Jayton: Ding.
Chris: But then you'd feel great afterward, really relaxed, especially with the foot bath and everything. Just kind of a cool little random thing I would do.
Jayton: That's awesome.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: Thank you. Any other activators you can think of that's easy for people to put into their life?
Chris: No, I mean, just good food.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: That thermo food.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Sleep's a big one, too.
Chris: Definitely sleep.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: If you can sleep eight hours a night, you're going to feel way better than if you only sleep four or six.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: Yeah. A big tip for that is avoiding technological screens like TVs, phones, computers, stuff like that for about an hour before you go to sleep because that blue light is very stimulating to the brain. It's going to cause you not to be able to secrete some of the hormones that are necessary for triggering sleep, so...
Chris: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Also, breathing exercise is really good.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: It can be as little as 10 or 15 minutes, and it just really relaxes your body, especially if you try it... I've tried certain ones. The Wim Hof one's really interesting. The Transcendental Meditation idea is really interesting, and it works really well. It's repetitive. That one, have you tried that before?
Jayton: Mm-mm (negative).
Chris: It's super-simple. It's basically there's a mantra, like a word. The word could mean something or it might not mean anything. It could be like blah, blah, blah or I don't know. It's a bad example. You could use the word thermo. Right. Thermo. You just send up, in your head, you repeat that word over and over. You just fall into a trance. It was interesting because of that repetition, but your whole body, once you enter that trance, your body just completely relaxes, all the muscles, everything. That could be effective for someone before they're going to bed. It could be just effective throughout the day. I know a lot of people use it throughout the day, but the official TM thing that they do is they say do it 20 minutes twice a day. People use it just mid-day to relax, to kind of hit the reset button in the middle of the afternoon like [inaudible 00:22:31] might be stressed out at work or whatever. Just reset real quick, get back to it. Just deep breathing, in general, is really, really good.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: It might not be any sort of meditation or anything, but if you're just focused on breathing in and out, one technique that I told the Thermo Warriors back a couple years ago was just the 7-7-7 technique. Seven seconds inhalation, seven second hold, seven second release. Just do it over and over.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Breathing is wild. If you get really deep into it, you can have like a psychedelic experience. People have all sort of experiences. But a lot of comes down to just relaxing.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: Getting more oxygen in the body.
Jayton: Yeah, because a lot of people, they... First of all, they mouth-breathe, which is not ideal, but then also they don't breathe deep enough. They're constantly hyperventilating throughout the day.
Chris: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jayton: So they get real tense, and anxious, and have real bad anxiety just from breathing incorrectly.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Breathing is a good one. Also, I think a lot of people, one thing that I've heard a lot of people say is their inability to sleep comes down to being unable to turn their brain off, like constant going, going, going. One thing people don't know is that that's a sign of sympathetic dominance-
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: ... in general where your sympathetic nervous system's kind of overriding everything. Sympathetic dominance, itself, especially when you don't have a real reason for that anxiety or that level of crazy thought... Sometimes you do. Sometimes you have some big problem you've got to solve or whatever. But if you don't, and it's still happening, and it's just like your brain's thinking about random stuff all the time, especially when you're trying to fall asleep, I would get your micronutrients tested because typically it would correlate with a high calcium level and a low magnesium, sodium, and potassium.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: So by correcting that, bringing those back to a normal level, it'll go away. You'll relax.
Jayton: Yeah. I do notice that whenever I've began to supplement with magnesium right before bed, sleeping is just... Not falling asleep's out of the question, almost.
Chris: Oh, yeah.
Jayton: In a lot of cases.
Chris: Yeah. Then you can have very vivid dreams, sometimes lucid, where you can control them.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Some people have nightmares and stuff, too, but even nightmares, you can... They're interesting.
Jayton: There's actually a correlation between high adrenaline levels whenever you're sleeping, which is another stress hormone, and very vivid nightmares. By correcting those micronutrient deficiencies, if you have nightmares a lot of the times then that could be something that you could also try out to alleviate them.
Chris: Yeah, I think one of the most important things people could do is test their micronutrients.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: It'll show you just how deficient you are. These deficiencies are not uncommon. Most of the population, if not everybody, at any moment, is deficient in stuff. That comes down to a lot of reasons, but it's helpful to know your data. I mean, a lot of people just fly blind their life. They just think stuff is genetic or fate. You know? It's not true.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Get real data.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: Fix it.
Jayton: Especially with epigenetics, now, too. We've actually been able to come to the realization that it's not all because of the genetic makeup from our parents. Right?
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: It's more of the environmental factors of the expression of those genes. Right?
Chris: Well, even the passing of genes is kind of convoluted because you can look at... There's research shown, a lot of it, government funded, too, where they know about it, but it's not widely known in general. The population of thyroid issues very, very commonly being passed from the mother to the child. It was because of the mother's deficiencies.
Jayton: Really?
Chris: In the womb, the child was also deficient. Therefore, had these issues when they were born.
Jayton: Wow.
Chris: Immediately. It's a huge issue, like mass populations of people. There are studies done in other countries, like African countries and India, where they would show a lot of this happening rapidly. It's something that people might chalk up to genetics. Oh, I've always had this problem. Well, it's not really genetic. It was just the fact that your mother was deficient in those things, and now you are too.
Jayton: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Chris: It's pretty logical. I mean, it's not wild to think about this stuff.
Jayton: Yeah. That's kind of like almost a paradigm shift, realizing that you've been deficient in these things your entire life. You could change that one thing simply by just correcting those micronutrient deficiencies.
Chris: Yeah.
Jayton: A lot of these vitamins or minerals only cost 10, 20 bucks on Amazon in a lot of cases.
Chris: Yep, and then we make a lot of specialty formulas with [inaudible 00:27:43] designed to help with this stuff and hit the right micronutrients and the right dosages that are shown in research to actually overcome that deficiency. So that's helpful as well. Then, again, changing your diet so that you can digest the nutrients better, so you're not filling your diet with anti-nutrients that are pulling these micronutrients out of your body, and being able to digest everything that you're eating. It's all tied together, and that's what Thermo is. That's the thought framework behind this whole thing.
Jayton: Heck, yeah. So do we have any resources to leave these guys with?
Chris: Yeah, I mean, I think if you're not signed up for the Thermo Course or if you haven't checked out thermodiet.com, I'll go over there right now. Check it out. You could get in the Facebook group. We got the best Facebook group. People are awesome in there. Everyone's cool. If you're ready to get some support, get some help on your Thermo journey, go check that out. You can check out the Thermo30 Roadmap just by googling Thermo30 Roadmap, and just subscribe to our podcast. We're going to have a lot of cool info on here. Listen through the old episodes, and learn as much as you can.
Jayton: Heck, yeah. We'll also have all of our YouTube channels and social media in the description below, if you want to check those out, too.
Chris: Yep.
Jayton: Yeah.
Chris: So thanks for listening. Subscribe to the show, and we'll see you on the next episode.
Jayton: Have a good one.
